Hello Mr. Kemp. I am at your mercy knowing you are the powers that be. But you would have no power over me on this forum unless given to you by my Father in Heaven.
I would like to cordially and respectfully respond to your response and assertions here. Since I am currently watching my 71 year old mother who just recently fell and broke two ribs I have time on my hands.
As you know earthy analogies are faulty and eventually break down when used to define and characterize the Eternal God who all was and always will be the self-existing Eternal God. Far above are comprehension. As his thoughts are not are thoughts and his ways are not are ways.
Romans 11:33 – O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
Isaiah 45:5 I am the Lord, and there is no other; There is no God besides Me. I will gird you, though you have not known Me, 6 That they may know from the rising of the sun to its setting That there is none besides Me. I am the Lord, and there is no other; 7 I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, the Lord, do all these things.’
I always like to go Back to the Holy Word of the Living God to get a picture of this Eternal Holy Loving Infinite in knowledge and power, God. Whose ways are higher than our ways and His ways are past finding out Other than what he has revealed to us in Scripture. Then we must pray and show due diligence in study to show ourselves approved in rightly dividing the Word of God the very Word of His grace for our lives.
Eric said and I quote as I think he was paraphrasing the person he was responding to: “The question I would ask in response is this: What does “before” mean when we’re talking about God? Obviously, I don’t take you as saying that God is bound by time and therefore can only know things as they happen.”
I agree with the statement that “God is not bound by time” as I think God in his Sovereign Providence is actively involved within His creation and not just sitting on the His Holy Metaphorical Throne (I don’t know maybe Jesus is, but God is spirit) and doing nothing.
I do not agree with the quote “God is bound by time and therefore can only know things as they happen”
I also do not think that Mr. Kemp believes this. As he would stand as an Orthodox Christian on this issue believing in the Infinite, Unlimited Exhaustive Knowledge of God. I would say there is nothing “bare” about it. There is never a time in the past, present, or future that God did or has not known something. God knows past, present and future all at the same time. God does not have to look into the future or down the corridor of time to retrieve or obtain some information. That would mean there was a time when God did not know something and his Knowledge would not be Eternal, Infinite and Perfect.
Colossians 2:that their hearts may be encouraged, being knit together in love, to reach all the riches of full assurance of understanding and the knowledge of God’s mystery, which is Christ,
Colossians 2:3 – in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
All treasure of wisdom and knowledge can found in Christ. I could amplify and expand on the Verses of God’s Eternal Infinite Perfect Knowledge but do not feel the need to do so because I believe Mr. Kemp is on the same page. If not my brother in Christ can clarify.
There Mr. Kemp says and I quote: “Let’s say time is like a parade. You and I are bound to watching the parade from the sideline, seeing everything as it happens.”
This is true. We are God’s finite limited creatures and do not possess Eternal Infinite Perfect Knowledge as the “Great I Am” does. So in our creaturely limited knowledge of knowing, would would only see the parade and decisions and actions of the individuals within the parade as each reveal their decisions and actions. Then we are still limited to seeing only what we can see in our creaturely finite limited knowledge. This poses God no problem but in a completely different way other than Mr. Kemp states.
Mr. Kemp says and I quote: “However, God is not bound as we are but instead can be thought of as being up in a helicopter, seeing the entire parade all at once. This is called the “eternal now” view of God.”
This statement in the utmost to Mr. Kemp I emphatically deny. This is limiting God and His Eternal Infinite Perfect Foreknowledge.